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“Zee wanted a fall guy..they chose the wrong one” :

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Anupam Kher is an extremely angry man. And he has been speaking out openly in the media against Zee TV’s decision to drop him as co-anchor of the game show Sawal Dus Crore Ka. For a man who is known to be mild-mannered and professional, it is a sign that he believes that he has been wronged. Indiantelevision.com’s Nupur Rekhy caught up with him and spoke with him just before he left to catch a flight to Hyderabad.Excerpts:

Q.Have you got the official termination letter from Zee TV?

Ans: No. I have not. And I can only take any action after I get it.

Q: Are you going to fight this out to the end?

Ans: I am convinced about my case, and I have the support of my family and I believe I can also get the industry’s support for my cause. The Zee TV officials are having a long meeting today and should reach a decision later this evening. I will take legal action only after I know the details.
 

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Q. What if they change their mind and reinstate you?

Ans: I don’t know if I would like to do the show now. It has been a very bad experience.

Q.What do you think went wrong with the show?

Ans: I am from theatre and I am used to chaos. Our training is such that we are part of the team. There were some teething problems but otherwise the show was pretty fine. I believe that they should have made some preparations before taking it on air. They got the show going in just three days. Also, they wanted to make changes while the show was on air. To add to that they decided to redo the show as the chemistry of the team was building up …the artistes, the technicians and the viewers…they were slowly gelling together and they decided to redo everything.

Q.Do you think what has been done to you is fair?

Ans:Not at all. No one has the right to do what they have done especially a corporate. They should have big values as their identity is known by the values they have, so I do not think what they have done is anywhere fair. They wanted a fall guy and I feel it is the wrong guy they chose.

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Q.What made you do the show?

Ans: It was a prestigious show, the money was good, for me the process of work is more important than the results.

Q.Do you think the show will do better now?

Ans: Not until they come out with a better concept. The TRPs stated that they need to change their attitude, but no one has implemented that as yet.

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Q.What do you think of the changes they are doing? Why do you think Ashutosh Rana stepped into your shoes?

Ans: Zee TV has made a mistake. I think they should not have changed the host at this stage. But if they were serious about changing the host and taking the show places they should have taken somebody like Shahrukh Khan who has a lot more hold over the masses than me. While Ashutosh Rana is a good actor, he will take some time to come into people’s eyes like I have. I am not trying to act proud. But it will take him time. There are a lot of reasons for Rana agreeing to come in my place. Money is a very big part of it and the desire to be successful. Every artiste would desire that.

Q.Do you think Zee TV is going through financial turmoil?

Ans: Yes, I believe they are going through cataclysmic upheavals.

Q.Do you think they will compensate you?

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Ans:Financially it is a set back. But it is not a disaster situation. They should compensate me and I hope they do.

Q.How have you taken this?

Ans: It’s a terrible shock as I had no idea this was coming but I believe in walking on in life and there is a theory that if you’re walking and you step on shit you don’t stop walking. You just brush off and you go on. I think personal dignity is more important to me. I’m not petrified and insecure in my work and neither I’m a vindictive kind of person.

Q.Did you find it different working with Zee TV?

Ans:No, there is no difference. Zee started as a very good channel and it was the most watched channel at one time. It was good working with Zee. Zee TV was more friendly because it could reach into the interiors. The concept of the show was original but the execution was alike that of KBC.

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Q.Do you have anything in hand right now?

Ans:I have a lot of work. I’m completing my prior assigned movies. I’m directing a film so I’m concentrating on my direction.

 

Q.How much hard work have you put into this?

Ans:Hundred percent hard work because that’s the way I work.

Q.Do you think Manisha was carrying the show well?

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Ans:See Manisha is not a theatre artiste. But she was doing okay.

Q.Do you blame Manisha?

Ans:I don’t blame Manisha at all for what has happened. I blame the channel. She may have told the management whatever she wanted. But it’s up to them to follow what she wanted or think about the programming.

Q.We believe she constantly kept you waiting on the sets by arriving late? You had a row about this last week?

Ans:I am quite used to this. I am a professional. I gave it my best from 9 am in the morning to 2 am the next morning when I was there. What transpired last week is not important. What I am concerned about is the attitude of the channel’s management.

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Kher files court case against Left leader

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MUMBAI: Following up on his threat to sue CPI (M) general secretary Harkishan Singh Surjeet for allegedly describing him as an “RSS man”, noted actor and sacked censor board chairman Anupam Kher today filed a criminal complaint in a magistrate’s court in Mumbai.

Kher personally appeared in the court along with his lawyer Majeed Memon. The next hearing of the case is on 17 November.

Kher, who was summarily dismissed as chairman of the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) last week, took Surjeet to court for writing what he termed a defamatory article in CPM mouthpiece People’s Democracy.

Kher has alleged that Surjeet dubbed him an RSS man implementing the Hindutva ideology in the censor board.

Kher, who was appointed by the previous government,
was replaced last Wednesday (13 October) as chairman of the censor board by yesteryear’s screen siren Sharmila Tagore.

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It was on October 14 that Kher served a notice to Surjeet asking the CPM general secretary to “satisfactorily substantiate the allegation or publicly deny the same within 48 hours”.

Kher’s protestations notwithstanding, the film fraternity’s reactions to his ouster have not all been supportive. Two associations of documentary filmmakers in fact lauded the government’s decision to remove Kher.

The strongest criticism of Kher has come from documentary filmmaker Rakesh Sharma. It was under Kher’s tenure that Sharma’s award winning documentary on the Gujarat riots Final Solution was stalled for months before finally being cleared without cuts two weeks ago.

Sharma in a prepared statement sent from the US had this to say, “I am really upset by the way Anupam Kher is taking credit for clearing my documentary on Gujarat riots and saying that he is being victimised, despite lifting the ban on it. The truth is that we documentary filmmakers were harassed by him for a long time. During a recent film festival in Bangalore, where Final Solution was opening, he sent the police after us.”

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“Television is a family-oriented medium and should remain so”

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The newest chairman of the Central Board of Film Certification, better known as the Censor Board, has designs for television. Anupam Kher, a versatile actor , chairman of the National School of Drama and now head of the Censor Board, plans to bring television in India under censorship rules. The ‘growing menace of vulgarity’ on television is my first concern, he says.

Kher takes over from ‘acting’ censor board chief and former Bharatiya Janata Party MP Arvind Trivedi who had chipped in when Vijay Anand resigned in July 2002 under controversial circumstances.

A brilliant actor who has won many accolades for his performances in films like Saaransh, Karma, Darr, Lamhe, Daddy, Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge and Dil amongst many others, Kher made his directorial debut last year with Om Jai Jagadish which unfortunately did not do well at the turnstiles. His recent venture, an autobiographical one man play- Kuch bhi ho sakta hai is running to packed houses.

Vickey Lalwani caught up with him at Swati Studios in Goregaon (East) where he was shooting for Creative Eye Productions’ 3 D Plus film Abra Ka Dabra.
Excerpts:

 

How and why did you decide to take up the post as Censor Board chairman?
Information & Broadcasting minister Ravi Shankar Prasad called me and asked if I was interested. I thought for three days and accepted the offer.

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Well, I have achieved so much from the film industry. It’s time I gave something back. Not just to the film industry, but to society and the country as well.

 

So, how do you plan to shuttle your time between acting, the NSD and censorship?
I am not required on a day-to-day basis. I won’t be looking at all the movies. Basically, I am involved with the policy meetings and formulation of the advisory board. And of course, if and when there is a crisis or a controversy, I will step in.

 

Considering the limited time period, will it be possible to monitor the movies? You might be faced with a situation where a filmmaker gets away by saying ‘it is integral to my script’, ‘obscenity lies in the eyes of the beholder’, etc?
You have a very valid point. And that’s exactly what we will be considering while formulating the advisory board. We will select people from different walks of life, to ensure the smooth running of the board. The new members will be briefed well.

We should be revising the Cinematograph Act. It was last revised in 1991. We need to classify the films into U, U/A and A categories. Plus, I even want cinema theatres to come under the new Cinematograph Act. We should be drafting a policy, which will bring cinema halls under its purview. Most cinema halls are allowing kids in for films which have an ‘A’ certificate, thereby defeating the entire purpose of certification. There is a dire need of policing at the theatres. Else we might have to release certain films in only a selected group of cinema halls that take pains to ensure that no under-18 guy or girl is sent in. The entire system needs to be revamped.

 

Is just regulating the cinema halls your main concern?
I don’t know why, but most of us have this ‘chalta hai’ and ‘jaane do’ mentality, but it’s time that someone rose, objected and did something concrete to eliminate the growing vulgarity on both, the big and small screens. My immediate concern is television.

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“If people see a porn film being aired, they should get up and inform the police”

 

What makes you say that?
In movies, a person buys a ticket and enters the theatre completely aware of what he is likely to watch, whether it’s a scary film or a sexy item number. So, he is responsible for the consequences.

On television, you are fed so many things which you don’t want to see. Consider a situation where a child is surfing the channels. What happens when one of the vulgar music videos are flashed before him? Doesn’t he get transfixed? Isn’t that a question for concern?

Have you seen some of the music videos? Atrocious. I understand that the new generation wants racy stuff, but that does not imply that one misuses the freedom of expression. Don’t the makers of these videos have any responsibility towards society? Young minds are very impressionable. I have interacted with children on the show Say Na Something to Anupam Uncle (Sab TV) and I understand their psyche. Television is a family-oriented medium and should remain so.

People in metros may be liberal both in terms of thought and system, these videos therefore might have an adverse effect on them. But consider a young girl from Muzzafarnagar seeing such stuff. The effect is going to be embarassing.

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You have decided police television. Are you going to do something about the adult films screened by some channels and cable operators?
Of course. But I need people’s support to do that. Why have I taken this job? If I don’t take up this job, I am refusing to be a responsible citizen of India. If people see a porn film being aired, they should get up and inform the police. They should form a mohalla committee and inform some mahila mandals. Mahila mandals have effectively campaigned against vulgarity and nudity on many occasions.

 

What about television serials?
I am equally concerned about serials. Why are so many people sleeping around? They are sleeping with their brother-in-law and sister-in-law on the screen! It stinks. We all want to earn money, but at what cost?

 

And what about surrogate advertising of liquor on television?
I believe the issues that we discussed earlier are of far more vital importance.

 

So what about the flashy film promos?
This is again a valid point. The promos need to be toned down. There are a lot of sexual overtones in most of the promos. I have spoken about this to the I & B minister. In fact, we had a long discussion on this.

 

Anything else, sir?
Our homes may have Italian marble and German upholstery, but there is always a small temple, a Gita or a Quran or a Bible in our rooms. Modernisation should not be allowed to rob our culture and values.

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